Vega (Claw) Crossup Bloody High Claw and EX FBA

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Published by DeuyDeuy at 04/30/2010 04:54 Like

This video will show you two setups for crossing up most characters on wakeup with either EX Flying Barcelona Attack or the forward (launcher) Bloody High Claw ultra.

***This Just In****

I guess because of the adjustments to EX FBA, it can now crossup medium sized characters as well! Although it seems harder than the big guys, I was able to land it on Ryu (no luck on Blanka).

Here are the characters that I have personally confirmed can be crossed up by EX FBA:

Sagat
Balrog
T Hawk
Zangief
Dudley
Rufus
Hakan
Gouken
Ryu

-Haven't tested others, but probably most of the rest of the cast as well. If I ever get around to testing it, maybe I will just make a list of who CAN'T be crossed up.

-It could just be luck, but it seemed for me that Balrog, Dudley, Zangief, Sagat were easier than the others.

Cross Up BHC:

Sagat
T Hawk
Zangief (seems easiest, did it 3 times in a row)

-Again, these are just the characters I personally landed it on. There are probably others, but the BHC seems more strict and I honestly don't have the patience to test it on the entire cast. Timing seems to slightly vary from character to character.

Timing is very strict, I usually only land the crossup 1/5 times or so. Because it isn't completely reliable, I only reccomend using the EX FBA because you can steer away safely or go for the follow up claw/Izuna drop if it is blocked. Going for the Ultra can result in losing your meter and/or getting punished if you don't crossup.

After Izuna Drop:

-Hold down-back after landing
-As soon as you see Vega crouch, immediately whiff a crouching fierce punch (cr fp is only a rough guide to filling the timing, it is not exact).
-As cr fp recovers, immediately input Ultra or EX FBA

After Slide:

-Hold down-back after cr rh
-Whiff a crouching strong punch* (cr mp is only a rough guide to filling the timing, it is not exact).
-Slightly after cr mp recovers, input Ultra or EX FBA

* I was also able to use cr mk, 2x cr jab, and even no normal at all once I got the timing down. Experiment with filler normals and see what works best for you.

The distance that you land the slide will also affect the timing.

I would say the Izuna drop setup is much more reliable. I would use it in a match for sure, since you don't lose much by trying the EX FBA. You might even catch someone jumping or walking fwd on wakeup. Thanks for watching!

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Latest comments

Vlegente, at 06/04/2013 07:32, says:
Yeah you can do the izuna drop even when they focus. The timing for when they are on the ground is just very specific though and hard to get the timing down. I normally just bait with fba and if they focus I just try to use the move sparingly, except for ex of course because of the natural two hits.
509g1, at 03/12/2013 17:46, says:
Ppl always focus attack my move lol. Can vega still grab them with inuza drop while they focus ?
vonkoopa, at 12/24/2012 02:32, says:
It gives you a visual indication (albeit often a rough one) of when to do your next attack. Be it a safe jump setup or (as seen here) an unexpected cross up, if there's a gap between executing your last attack and your next one, you can fill that time with an attack which takes about as long for you to recover from as the period of time where you must stay still, just to have an indication of when to do your next attack without it whiffing or even worse. It's easier than timing it manually.
MJ Kort, at 09/29/2012 06:25, says:
wait, so why whiff a normal when they're knocked down? i never got that
ProblematikGTX, at 08/02/2012 15:39, says:
Wait so, is this a vortex?
planetali1, at 01/11/2012 10:55, says:
thanks for posting this great vid and other vids for vega, ive learnt a lot. after i land the izuna drop i whiff a cr fp then I do an ex fba vega just goes through him, and if i delay a split of a second sagat blocks my ex fba. is sagat(dummy) in your vid on (no block option) or auto block option? thanks.
az98411, at 07/09/2011 09:01, says:
how do i execute the knee launch i have the game
fauxx82, at 03/22/2011 20:35, says:
ex fba yeah, but not u1 because it doesn't hit on the way up in vanilla
cougher989, at 03/09/2011 10:16, says:
Oh so you're making the dummy hold back to block... wow I'm dumb. Now I can practice these cross-ups, awesome! (I'm a Vega player)
reniisgod, at 03/04/2011 19:49, says:
Does this work on the original SF4? Thats all i play
Toomnyusernae, at 01/20/2011 20:42, says:
I've been using the crossup aspect of U1 a lot. It's really fun. However, you can't do it immediately after certain knockdown setups on Sagat, Adon, Blanka, Dhalsim, and Vega because they get up slightly later. Not to say it's impossible, just needs different timing. Any untechable knockdown is game for nasty U1_^)
DeuyDeuy, at 12/07/2010 11:33, says:
Cool, I appreciate the input! When I get the time I'll do some testing on Makoto in the training room and update the info.
arashikageclan, at 12/05/2010 23:14, says:
Hah still commenting on this video... but I haven't been able to get Makoto either. The way she stands has her back lowered so I haven't been able to get it to work on her.
John Rambo, at 11/23/2010 14:52, says:
wow vega and guile's moves are HARD!
Toomnyusernae, at 11/15/2010 07:48, says:
Slight correction I need to make. If you land a sweep and get real close, wait a split second and jump off your wall you can cross up your opponent. Do it later and it will only work as a crouching crossup.
Toomnyusernae, at 11/13/2010 17:57, says:
I didn't know about the knee crossing up. That's real something. His downforward+roundhouse to sweep is a pretty reliable way to land yourself in a good position. If you time it well and jump off your own wall you can cross them up with the bloody high claw too_^)
DeuyDeuy, at 11/08/2010 00:40, says:
This is Super SF4, if you do Ultra 1 towards the forward wall, the knee will launch them and juggle. There was no knee launch in original SF4.
indahizzay, at 11/06/2010 16:47, says:
how did u knee him into the ultra on the first cross up? do u have to be at a certain spot ?
arashikageclan, at 11/02/2010 01:41, says:
No problem, you're very welcome. Yeah I usually time it just a tad too early, but it's pretty cool when I get it multiple times in a row on someone. I usually don't do U1 because I'm on a pad (for some reason it doesn't take the input very well, maybe it's just me :P) and the timing is pretty strict. I haven't seen anyone yet who has blocked the cross up yet, but that may be due to my inconsistency with it. I'll agree it seems to work on most of the cast.
DeuyDeuy, at 10/26/2010 00:14, says:
Thanks for the info! I stopped testing after about 10 characters, but I'm thinking it works on almost the whole cast. The only character that I really tried and had no luck on was Blanka. I still don't reccomend wasting U1 on this unless you learn to be extremely reliable with it. I probably successfully crossup with the EX about 1/3 tries now.
arashikageclan, at 10/25/2010 00:26, says:
Works on Fei too
arashikageclan, at 10/24/2010 22:13, says:
Further update, just did this on live to a Cammy, so it would seem the smaller characters have a good chance to be hit too. I had to watch the replay just to make sure haha, but I did cross her up with EX FBA, although it dizzied her lol
arashikageclan, at 10/24/2010 02:50, says:
It would seem to me that this is less risky the more practice you get with it, not to mention you really are in control if you have already gotten someone down with either the Izuna or Slide. Not sure if this is still updated, but this works on Juri as well. I couldn't get the Ultra to connect though I did see it get blocked in kind of the cross up hit area with the cp on neutral auto block. Now to add it into my online play hehe
vids050, at 10/04/2010 18:11, says:
i really need to add this to my arsenal...
DeuyDeuy, at 08/05/2010 02:44, says:
Did you actually cross them up correctly? I don't see how this "won't work", it either crosses them up or it doesn't. If you can do it reliably then it's pretty much a 50/50 guessing game regardless of how good your opponent is.